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#270095 - 08/27/09 01:34 PM Peter Baartmans - "Mas Que Nada"
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#270096 - 08/27/09 01:58 PM Re: Peter Baartmans - "Mas Que Nada"
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Yes, inDEED!

Now, that is accuracy.

Thanks for posting that.

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#270097 - 08/28/09 05:11 AM Re: Peter Baartmans - "Mas Que Nada"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIp9XQmh5gI&feature=related

Peter Baartmans is of course the greatest exponent of the electronic keyboard and will NEVER be bettered.....that is a fact and nobody can deny that....

so just have a look at the above link if you have a T3 and want to cry.

The greatest thrill I ever had was meeting and talking to him during his european tour to demonstrate the T3.
His pic and his autograph sit proudly on my
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#270098 - 08/28/09 06:51 AM Re: Peter Baartmans - "Mas Que Nada"
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He is a very good musician.

But -- "Never say, 'never'!"

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#270099 - 08/28/09 06:51 AM Re: Peter Baartmans - "Mas Que Nada"
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I'm not sure if he's the "greatest" but he's probably the best I've heard.

To me, his single most impressive attribute is his solo instrument playing. His Clarinet riffs sound like a Clarinet, his trumpet riffs sound like a trumpet, etc.

I've heard lots of arranger users who play all sounds like a piano and that just doesn't work so well.

He also has plenty of chops both technique and taste wise...



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#270100 - 08/28/09 07:29 AM Re: Peter Baartmans - "Mas Que Nada"
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#270101 - 08/28/09 11:32 AM Re: Peter Baartmans - "Mas Que Nada"
--Mac Offline
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His Clarinet riffs sound like a Clarinet, his trumpet riffs sound like a trumpet, etc.


Notreally, but his attention to phrasing helps a lot with the illusion.
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#270102 - 08/28/09 04:32 PM Re: Peter Baartmans - "Mas Que Nada"
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I've said it before, I'll say it again ... "Damn, I wish I had studied piano!!!" ...

Of course, there's no telling if the TALENT would have been there ...
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#270103 - 08/28/09 07:43 PM Re: Peter Baartmans - "Mas Que Nada"
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Originally posted by --Mac:
Not really, but his attention to phrasing helps a lot with the illusion.


Well, Mac...I've worked with Trumpet players and Clarinet players for a long time, and IMO...for what's it worth, his Clarinet riffs are modeled after Clarinet, same with his trumpet licks, and so on.

Not sure what your point whas, but let's agree he's very skilled with that instrument, ok?



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#270104 - 08/28/09 07:54 PM Re: Peter Baartmans - "Mas Que Nada"
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Well, Bill, I've played trumpet as well as keyboards and guitar for several decades anwyay and my little brother is the reed player.

There are certain giveaways in note choice and such, as well as articulation artifacts, plus the dead giveaway for any trumpet player, the dead on intonation of digital samples. For example, the D above Middle C on the Bb Trumpet (Concert E) has a distinct sound of its own when pulled into tune with the tempered scale, because the design of the Trumpet dictates that situation. There are other well known quirks and anomalies inherent to the Trumpet, as well as with Clarinets and Saxes also.

A skilled Trumpet player can hear these things.

Articulation wise, digital sampling can't slur notes the same at all.



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